NWCS Into The Dark Episode 50 The Vatican

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Hear the Sasquatch howling in the night Paranormal beings come out to play. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Feel. [00:00:19] Speaker A: That chill upon your neck but do not fear when the rugby roo bikes because we'll follow you into the dark we'll follow you into the dark into. [00:00:40] Speaker B: The Dark Contains subject matter and language that may be unsuitable for younger listeners. Listener discretion is advised. Hello, greetings and welcome to NWCS into the Dark podcast. Episode number 50 55, the Big Five. This episode is going to be all about the Vatican. [00:01:04] Speaker C: Oh, boy. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Oh, boy, indeed. [00:01:09] Speaker B: So, Danny. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:12] Speaker B: I got. I got to say. [00:01:14] Speaker A: You got a bone to pick? [00:01:15] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I don't have a bone to pick, but you should have a bone to pick with me, I guess. [00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:22] Speaker B: Because I've said. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Tell me about it. [00:01:23] Speaker B: I've said, hey, how do you take good things and make them creepy? I've been busting your balls about that. But then I. But then I choose the Vatican. I don't know how. I don't know how that happened. [00:01:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You know, it's. Well, I mean, comes around nice and wholesome. [00:01:38] Speaker C: Comes around, goes around. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah. You just can't help it sometimes. [00:01:43] Speaker B: I mean, I will say there's some pretty creepy things about the. The Catholics and the Vatican and the history, and we're going to get into all that. [00:01:50] Speaker C: Most of the group didn't even participate in that in this episode. So I wonder if most of the group. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:57] Speaker C: It's just three of us celebrating. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. With that being said in the studio this evening, we have myself. We've got Tab. [00:02:06] Speaker C: Hello. [00:02:07] Speaker B: And we got Danbur. All the way from. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. All the way from somewhere in California. And then there was three. [00:02:17] Speaker C: Yeah. What's the deal? [00:02:19] Speaker A: Just like that. [00:02:19] Speaker B: 50. [00:02:20] Speaker A: Lucky number three. [00:02:21] Speaker B: 50 episodes and we've lost how many people? [00:02:24] Speaker C: I know. We expand and we expand the walls in here. [00:02:27] Speaker B: I know. We get a brand new shiny when. [00:02:29] Speaker C: We could have got smaller. [00:02:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:02:31] Speaker A: They all ran away just like that. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Where is everybody? [00:02:34] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:02:35] Speaker A: Let's check in with them and see. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Jesse. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Jesse. [00:02:39] Speaker C: Jesse. [00:02:40] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no, no. Rob. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Rob, Rob Rabba with 37 and a half Bs. [00:02:46] Speaker B: No, no, not here. Joey. Joey. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Joey. Joey's here. Yeah. [00:02:51] Speaker B: No, no, he's not. [00:02:52] Speaker A: He's not. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Gosh, I forget the other guy's name. It's been so long. [00:02:57] Speaker A: It's like the little guy. Pablo. Pablo. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Oh, no, Tito. I think it sounds like his last name. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Germaine. [00:03:09] Speaker B: What? [00:03:10] Speaker C: Rony? Dave. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Dave, that's the one. [00:03:13] Speaker C: Dave. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Wavy Davey. Yeah. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Dave. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Joey episode for him. To be here for it would. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Or why? [00:03:22] Speaker A: I. I'm just. You know, I. I've heard him talk about it. [00:03:27] Speaker B: You know. What's. What's difficult about having you on the screen over there, Danny? [00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah, tell me about it. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Well, I've got my spectacles on, right? And they're just. They're reading spectacles. [00:03:36] Speaker C: So he's a blur, right? [00:03:38] Speaker B: So I can see what I'm reading because I'm old. But then I look up you to see you laughing and it's such a good time and I can't see you. It's just a. It's just a blur. Yeah, a dark color. Dark colored blur. That's all I see. [00:03:53] Speaker A: It's weird. I actually have my glasses on for distance, but the computer is a little smaller. The screen is a little smaller than I'm. So I'm kind of having this. [00:04:04] Speaker C: Clint. [00:04:04] Speaker B: So I'm doing this old man thing where I've got my glasses on the bridge of my nose and then. So I can look down, but then I can look over the lenses to see you like a. [00:04:15] Speaker A: There you go. [00:04:16] Speaker B: School marm. [00:04:17] Speaker A: There you go. You're like one of those old guys in the mall that used to be like, hey, what up, Shouty? One of those top your. [00:04:24] Speaker B: One of the. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Top of your glasses. [00:04:26] Speaker B: One of those old guys in the mall that used to take you by the hand of the restroom and. What? Touch your. No, no. Square. What? That was weird. [00:04:34] Speaker C: That is weird. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Okay, anything new? Anything new? Anything new with the group? [00:04:39] Speaker C: Well, I got a cold, so I might cough every once in a while, so I apologize to everybody. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Oh, boy. You got the vid, the rona. [00:04:47] Speaker C: I don't care. [00:04:47] Speaker A: Can we say that out loud now? [00:04:49] Speaker B: No, no, you can't say the code. We can't talk about that anymore because that didn't actually exist. [00:04:54] Speaker C: Yeah, well, that's a conspiracy. [00:04:56] Speaker B: That was a figment of your imagination, Dan. [00:04:59] Speaker A: Bur can't get it if you don't get tested. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Yeah, let's move on. Let's move on. Anything new? Anybody have anything new? [00:05:07] Speaker A: What is new? [00:05:09] Speaker B: Well, we got a new studio. [00:05:10] Speaker A: It's pretty. [00:05:12] Speaker B: Pretty impressive, if I do say so myself. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's huge. We did our first episode in there. [00:05:18] Speaker B: We did? With your mom. Your mom was. [00:05:21] Speaker C: Yeah. How's Mom? [00:05:22] Speaker A: Mom is good. I just talked to her yesterday. A couple times. [00:05:25] Speaker C: Yeah, we gotta call. We gotta call all our moms tomorrow. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. [00:05:30] Speaker C: It's Mother's Day. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Hi, Danny's mom. Count. We'll just say hi for now. [00:05:35] Speaker A: By the way her name is Nora. [00:05:37] Speaker B: I know, but I didn't think you wanted that on the air, so I just. I call her Danny's mom. Yeah. Okay. [00:05:43] Speaker A: Just like that. We'll beep it out. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Like Nora the Impaler. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. [00:05:49] Speaker B: What was that, anyway? [00:05:52] Speaker A: What else is new? [00:05:54] Speaker C: Yeah. What's new with Scott? [00:05:57] Speaker B: Nothing, really. I feel like we have a lot to discuss since our last. Our last episode was our first episode in, like, a year and a half. [00:06:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:07] Speaker B: And I feel like we've done a lot since then. [00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:11] Speaker B: We went to New Orleans. Did we talk about New Orleans? [00:06:13] Speaker C: We always talk about New Orleans. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Your trip, Danny's trip. Do we talk about that? [00:06:16] Speaker C: No, not Danny's. [00:06:18] Speaker B: I don't think that we've podcasted since Danny went. [00:06:21] Speaker A: Have Really. [00:06:22] Speaker B: I don't think we have. [00:06:24] Speaker A: What was the episode before? It was Hollywood? Yeah. I don't know. [00:06:28] Speaker B: I don't remember. You're asking tough questions. [00:06:31] Speaker C: I mean, my memory only goes back a few months. [00:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:34] Speaker C: And then it's just a blow. [00:06:35] Speaker A: I think we did Hollyweird right before Easter. Well, not right before. But that was the last episode before. [00:06:42] Speaker C: Right, Easter, last year. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Right? That was like. [00:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah, last year. Yeah. What was before that? Do you remember? [00:06:53] Speaker B: I don't know, man. Like, I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, so. Yeah, I don't know. [00:06:58] Speaker C: You had a baloney sandwich today. That's about as far back as I can go. [00:07:01] Speaker A: I slept at a Motel 6 last night. [00:07:03] Speaker B: So did you by yourself or. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Good. [00:07:06] Speaker B: You have a little lady friend with you? [00:07:08] Speaker A: No, by myself, I didn't really, but, you know. [00:07:12] Speaker B: All right, so tonight we're going to talk about the Vatican. Yeah, it's this. [00:07:16] Speaker C: This looks long and complicated. There's three pages here. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Those are just ideas. Those are notes. [00:07:21] Speaker C: These are. [00:07:21] Speaker B: You can choose. You can choose. Yeah, you can choose to say. Oh, that looks like an interesting topic. Maybe I'll talk about that. [00:07:28] Speaker A: What is the Vatican, though? [00:07:30] Speaker B: The Vatican is a city, isn't it? A temple of sorts. It's a city in the. Yeah. So tonight we go into the shadowy heart of the world's smallest country. A place of divine power, sacred traditions, and some of the strangest secrets in human history. Welcome to the Vatican. Anyway, Danny, what do you got? [00:07:54] Speaker A: The Vatican. Is it a city or is it a country? I don't know. Or is it both? Well, as I understand it, the Vatican is a country. [00:08:05] Speaker C: But it says city state. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a small. [00:08:10] Speaker B: It's the smallest country in the world, covering 0.2 miles square miles. [00:08:15] Speaker A: 2 square miles. [00:08:17] Speaker B: But I think it's Vatican City. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:21] Speaker A: There you go. Maybe that's the capital. [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Like. Like New York State in the country of New York. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Why do you suppose something like the Vatican has this carve out within another country? It's almost like it annexed itself. Yeah. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So they wouldn't be applicable. [00:08:39] Speaker C: Kind of like a District of Columbia. [00:08:41] Speaker B: It's kind of like Disney World. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:43] Speaker B: In Florida. Where they sort of annex themselves into their own country so they don't have to be, you know, bound by the rules of Florida. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Why do countries do that? So is D.C. sovereign. [00:08:56] Speaker C: To their way? I guess of. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker B: I think we're getting a bit off topic. [00:09:00] Speaker C: Well, that's my fault. Sorry. [00:09:01] Speaker B: We're talking about the Vatican. [00:09:02] Speaker C: I'm sorry. [00:09:03] Speaker A: Well, I'm just trying to understand the intent behind it. Makes sense to me, the analogy to dc, but. Or the comparison. But why. Why do they. Yeah. [00:09:12] Speaker C: Anyway, yeah, there's some legalities probably that none of us understand. [00:09:18] Speaker A: Right. Maybe it's a conspiracy theory too. [00:09:20] Speaker C: Right. [00:09:22] Speaker A: When did the Vatican start? [00:09:24] Speaker B: Well, it was created by the lateran Treaty of 1929, to be exact. [00:09:28] Speaker C: And that doesn't go very far back. [00:09:30] Speaker B: They have their own postal system and they have their own army, but it. [00:09:36] Speaker C: Was before that it was created by. [00:09:37] Speaker B: The lateran Treaty of 1929. That may be when it became. I think Danny needs to do his research. [00:09:47] Speaker A: I am asking a prompting question, but yes, that's the same that I have is that. [00:09:55] Speaker C: I mean, their archives are just enormous. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Well. And I should say this is when it became officially official. [00:10:02] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Of course, it existed before, you know, before that, in different versions or iterations, but kind of its own. It received its own sovereignty. Its independence day, if you will, in 1929. [00:10:17] Speaker C: That makes sense. [00:10:18] Speaker A: This is. This army you speak of, apparently it's guarded by the Swiss. [00:10:24] Speaker B: The Swiss army. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is. Let's not put the rim shot in there. But why do you suppose it's guarded by the Swiss? Where are Swiss people from, by the way? [00:10:37] Speaker B: Switzerland. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Switzerland. Why do you suppose they have it guarded by this. The Swiss, I wonder? [00:10:43] Speaker C: Because their citizens are armed. [00:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:45] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:10:47] Speaker A: It's a good question. I mean, I don't know. It's. It seems there's lots of interesting things. [00:10:52] Speaker C: Their flag looks like the Knights of the Templar. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a true thing. Yeah, it'd be an interesting. [00:10:58] Speaker C: These are all guesstimates. I don't know. Yeah, because they're a bank. Because they're you know, the Vatican. Wasn't that one of the first banks? [00:11:07] Speaker B: What kind of currency does that country use? [00:11:09] Speaker A: Danny, that is a fantastic question. Let me check the Googles on that. [00:11:14] Speaker B: They use the euro in their country, but they're not a member of the European nation, which is weird. But they have their own post office, they have their own radio station. Can you imagine how, like, thrilling that radio station probably is? [00:11:28] Speaker A: See? Yeah. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Even one. One radio station. What do you think it plays, Danny? Vatican Radio. Vro. [00:11:37] Speaker A: Very, very similar to Radio Goldfield. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's the same, you know, morning show and, and night, late night, Friday night, dance party. [00:11:51] Speaker B: Do you think it's all in Latin with the banjo? [00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's, it's. It's interesting. I see, I do see some similarities too, and it make sense, I guess, to, like I said with D.C. but. But then a lot of things are separate, like completely separate. I'd. So it's, it's something I'm just thinking about as we're talking, the reason for that. Why do they do that? But then they have so much influence outward of that place. [00:12:20] Speaker C: Right. [00:12:21] Speaker A: You know, it's. It's like, who are they accountable to? [00:12:25] Speaker B: I think that's a big part of the question is like, if they have to do some sort of an investigation Vatican wise, because they have so many secrets in their basement and. [00:12:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:34] Speaker B: That they, they basically have their own. I would suspect, with their own country, that they have their own judicial system and their own court system. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker B: That's exclusive to them because of the amount of power and secrets that the Vatican owns. [00:12:50] Speaker C: Their clergy. How many are in the clergy? Do we know that? [00:12:53] Speaker B: Oh, I mean, they're international, so. [00:12:56] Speaker C: I know. But when they're all together, when they're like in the movie, it just seemed like there was hundreds of them. [00:13:01] Speaker A: They're doing their conclave. 108, to be specific, for the conclave, anyway, in the movie. But. [00:13:08] Speaker C: Right. [00:13:09] Speaker A: How many there are in real life? I'm not sure. [00:13:11] Speaker B: You know, I didn't get invited to that. [00:13:14] Speaker A: You didn't get the memo? [00:13:15] Speaker B: No. To the Conclave? [00:13:16] Speaker A: I. Yeah, I, I did you. That was busy. Yeah. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Did you? [00:13:20] Speaker A: I was busy. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Oh, you were busy. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:22] Speaker B: I figured with a, With a podcast like ours, that they would, you know, want our. [00:13:27] Speaker A: They would want us like right there, front and center. [00:13:29] Speaker B: You know, maybe. Maybe not as part of the religious movement of it, but maybe it is advisors or something like that. [00:13:36] Speaker C: Right. [00:13:36] Speaker B: You know? [00:13:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:13:37] Speaker C: A little, little input from us. [00:13:39] Speaker B: But you know, my problem would have been I don't have my real ID yet, so I probably wouldn't be able to get there. [00:13:45] Speaker C: Yeah, getting there. [00:13:46] Speaker B: And to make matters worse, they're their own country. They had their own passport system. Did you guys know that you have. [00:13:52] Speaker A: To have your own password? See, this just gets weird. [00:13:54] Speaker B: They have their own passport. [00:13:56] Speaker A: What other. What other area functions that way, you know? [00:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it points like, don't. [00:14:02] Speaker C: I don't know. Sounds like a lot of secrets. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Lots of don't look in, but we can look out. Right, Right. [00:14:08] Speaker B: For a country that's. For a country that's about 110 acres. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. It just. [00:14:15] Speaker B: It's 0.2 square miles. You have to have your own passport to get it. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't have been able to go anyway. You know, the next conclave they have, I should probably have my real ID by then, so you should be good. [00:14:27] Speaker A: I would think you should get a front row seat. You know, maybe they'll let you into the conclave, you know? Yeah, a little. [00:14:33] Speaker B: You know, speaking of conclaves. So we have some missing people in our group, Right. I'm not sure if they're ever going to come back, but they're missing momentarily. Missing in my. Which means a couple different things, right. First thing, we can talk smack about them this whole episode, and they can't defend themselves. [00:14:52] Speaker C: Maybe that's why they're not showing up. [00:14:53] Speaker B: And we have two episodes, so without. [00:14:56] Speaker C: Two episodes of Smackdown. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah, so they're gonna get a smackdown. Remember that, Danny? Because they can't defend themselves. And second of all, if they're dead or, you know, whatever, and we have to bring in new members, I feel that we should have sort of a conclave type environment to bring in. To bring in new members. [00:15:17] Speaker C: Does that mean new outfits where we're. [00:15:19] Speaker B: Sequestered in the studio? And I mean, obviously people bring us food and stuff. We're sequestered in the studio until we decide who we want as the new members. We have to, like, vote on it. And then we have a little chimney that blows out, like, smoke and stuff. And then everybody will be like, oh, who did they decide as member? [00:15:37] Speaker C: The whole. [00:15:38] Speaker B: The whole town will be around going, oh, NWCS has her new. [00:15:41] Speaker C: How many boats are we going to do? Are we gonna do like three or. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Four days until it's done? [00:15:44] Speaker B: It doesn't matter. I mean, we're sequestered. [00:15:47] Speaker A: We are majority. Yeah, two thirds majority. [00:15:49] Speaker B: We're in it to win it. [00:15:50] Speaker C: Okay. [00:15:51] Speaker B: So, like, if there's if I know. [00:15:52] Speaker C: It'S gonna be a really, really small little poof out of the. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:58] Speaker A: What if we do it in the very first NWCS rv? That's where we get sequestered. The one with the back. [00:16:06] Speaker B: We don't have that anymore. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know, we find it. Exactly, exactly. We're sequestered in there until the work. [00:16:14] Speaker B: No, we're sequestered here, Danny, because do you remember what's right next door to the studio here in our new beautiful, large studio. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker B: From all of our. From all of our contributors. [00:16:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:25] Speaker B: By the way, hit like and share saloon. A full size saloon. So what a better place to be sequestered and blockchain go. And there's so the door, the front door to the studio. There's a secret hidden door. We could be. Everyone's like, oh, my gosh, they're in that little room all sequestered. But then we go through our little door there, go around to the saloon, and nobody's the wiser. [00:16:50] Speaker A: And then poof. Yeah. We're gonna be in here for a while, guys. It's. It's gonna be rough, but we'll get to it. I'll just light a bottle of gin. What color does that turn? [00:17:04] Speaker B: Okay, I feel like we're getting off track. So that's. That's another thing I was gonna say. I. I listened to the last episode. I realized that I interrupt quite a bit. So I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna interrupt. I'm gonna let people talk. And what was the other thing I was gonna do? [00:17:18] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. [00:17:20] Speaker C: There's really not very many people to interrupt today. [00:17:23] Speaker B: No, there's not. So it should be a little. A little easier for me. [00:17:25] Speaker C: Yes, a little easier for you. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Nice and smooth. [00:17:28] Speaker C: I'll raise my hand when I want to speak. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Oh, I've got a little clock on my. I've got a little clock here tab. So I can tell you when we're reaching our limit. [00:17:36] Speaker C: Okay, sounds good. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Let's get back to the topic because this is. I feel like this one's. [00:17:40] Speaker C: This one's. [00:17:41] Speaker B: This one's. This one's a little dry. I think we're going kind of slow. [00:17:44] Speaker C: Kind of like the movie. [00:17:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we're getting used to. There's three of us and not 17, right? A little bit less ball busting. [00:17:51] Speaker C: That's true. [00:17:52] Speaker B: So we gotta just roll some. [00:17:54] Speaker A: I have some conspiracy theories or some mysteries I can talk about. [00:17:57] Speaker B: I thought we're gonna do it. I thought we're gonna bust some balls for a minute. [00:17:59] Speaker C: Let's get into the meat. [00:18:01] Speaker B: Oh, gross. Nobody wants to get into the meat tab. [00:18:04] Speaker C: The meat of the matter. [00:18:05] Speaker B: What do you got, Danny? [00:18:06] Speaker A: Yeah, well, yeah, and. And so, you know, for whatever reason, this is one of those places. And maybe it's because of the secrecy behind it. It's so mysterious, I guess. [00:18:17] Speaker B: And our studio. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Well, that too, yeah. That's probably a good analogy because, you. [00:18:23] Speaker C: Know, you just interrupted. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. We're talking about the conflict. My bad. Yeah, I just assumed you were talking about the studio. Go ahead. My bad. [00:18:34] Speaker A: It's all good. But you know, there's been some, some reports of different. Different types of mystery or conspiracy theories from there. One of such things is the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi. Orlandi. This apparently was in 1963. 15 year old Vatican girl Emanuela Orlandi vanished without a trace. Over the decades, her case has been intertwined with rumors of Vatican intrigue, Cold war espionage and mafia involvement. Notes I never would have saw that coming. But most recently, a blogger claimed she was pregnant and died after clandestine abortion, apparently. And a claim of being investigated by Italian authorities. Fresh Vatican inquiries. [00:19:20] Speaker B: I'm sorry, what were you saying? [00:19:24] Speaker A: I'm just simply sharing some of the recent conspiracy theories reported out of the. Related to the Vatican. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Did you, did you come across any information about the St. Peter's Basilica being built atop a former pagan cemetery? [00:19:39] Speaker A: Oh, no, but I. [00:19:41] Speaker B: The pagan that. The pagan origins in. In that regard, yeah. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Tell me about it. Maybe this ties into Easter. Like we had nothing. Not so much. [00:19:53] Speaker B: Well, I. I did my research, but I focused on Chronovisor. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Oh yeah, that sounds sexy. [00:19:59] Speaker B: You want to hear about what? You want to hear about the Chronovisor? [00:20:02] Speaker A: Yeah. What's the Chronovisor? [00:20:03] Speaker B: Well, the tale begins in the 1960s when an Italian Benedictine monk, Father Pellegrino and Neri, claimed he had helped build a time viewing device along with a team of scientists, including the famed Enrico Fermi and rocket scientist Werner von Braun. Werner von Braun? Didn't we do a story on them? The brothers that wrote stories? Werner von Braun? [00:20:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was Wilhelm and Yakov. Yakov. Jakob. Jakob and Wilhelm or Grimm. Yes, the Grimm fairy tale. [00:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So apparently the story goes that this rocket scientist and a variety of other different scientists invented this thing called the Chronovisor, which was like a time machine of sort, but it didn't transport you through time, but allowed you to see into the past. Like turning into cosmic surveillance footage. Like a metaphysical DVR for history. Ernetti alleged that the device used principles of sound and light, vibrations capturing the echoes of past events still resonating through the universe. And he claimed to have witnessed scenes from ancient Rome and even. Even. Get this. Wait for it. The crucifixion of Jesus. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:21:23] Speaker C: What are you sharing? [00:21:24] Speaker A: The chronovisor. Apparently it's not sharing like a plant. [00:21:27] Speaker B: Oh, well, the Vatican, when pressed, issued a rather cryptic statement that anyone using such a device risk excommunication. So obviously no confirmation, but no outright denial either. Conveniently ambiguous skeptics argue that the story is a hoax or a theological metaphor. But believers, they say the Chronovisor may still exist, locked away, protected, or hidden in plain sight somewhere within the Vatican. I thought Danny would have this. You had one job, Danny. One. [00:22:02] Speaker A: Well, I'm sharing a screen now, but it's. It's just showing a bunch of random images of this one. [00:22:09] Speaker B: Look up. [00:22:10] Speaker A: Cross between a microwave and a 3D printer, maybe. [00:22:13] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like. This looks like a bamboo and then. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Yeah, bamboo. Lots of pictures of crucifixion. This must be an image that is allegedly captured from the chronovisor of Jesus. [00:22:29] Speaker B: In your Google search, put Chronovisor, Jesus pictures instead of just. What did you put there? [00:22:35] Speaker A: Well, it's the same things coming up. [00:22:37] Speaker B: And the problem is, you know, you're using Google. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Oh, is that a thing? Maybe, maybe, maybe shadow band. Because it's real. Oh, there we go. How about that? There's the Chronovisor. Now wouldn't that be something? Talking about conspiracy theories. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Is that the Chronovisor for real? [00:22:58] Speaker C: The tv? Well, I remember watching cartoons when I was about three years old. [00:23:02] Speaker A: What if that. What if when we were watching TV as kids or now, I guess. What if we're watching the future of the past instead of whatever we think it is? I guess maybe that is the chronovisor. Do you think they just mean tv, man? [00:23:20] Speaker C: We're into like the quantum physics of things. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I got nothing. [00:23:28] Speaker B: This is gonna be an editing nightmare. [00:23:30] Speaker C: That's fine. Well, yeah, instead of. Yeah, instead of just doing audio now, now we have video. Because we have cameras all over the studio now. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow. [00:23:41] Speaker B: So does. Does the Catholic Church still do exorcisms? [00:23:44] Speaker C: They do. Their view on exorcisms have changed since September 2021, a three year old was killed during an exorcism. [00:23:54] Speaker B: Really? [00:23:54] Speaker C: In Texas. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Yikes. [00:23:56] Speaker C: Been. Several famous deaths occurred during exorcism rituals in the. In the past. In 1976, Elise Mitchell of Germany died of dehydration and malnutrition after nearly 10 months of Catholic exorcism. In 2005, Marcia Carnizzi, a Romanian Orthodox nun, died in an ambulance following an exorcism in which she was chained to a cross. [00:24:26] Speaker B: Weird. [00:24:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:28] Speaker B: How often do you think they do exorcisms, Danny? [00:24:31] Speaker A: I. [00:24:32] Speaker B: Do you think. Do you think they, like, send somebody. Is there an exorcism team, like a SWAT team? Do you think where they're all just kind of. They're all waiting in the room in the Vatican, and they're like, oh, we got a call. [00:24:45] Speaker C: They get it in. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Then they jump into an old ambulance that's going. [00:24:51] Speaker C: Kind of like the Ghostbusters. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Like, it's something like Team America. [00:24:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And they wear. They have, like, tactical vests and they jumping. And then how, in all honesty, how often do you think they, like, exercise people? [00:25:08] Speaker C: I don't know. I think a lot of it's probably done in secret. They probably don't want to make a spectacle out of it. [00:25:16] Speaker B: But do you think they respond from the Vatican, or do you think they have, like, local cells of exorcism? [00:25:21] Speaker C: I think it all needs to go through the Vatican before they can endorse it. And that's probably why they've changed their. [00:25:27] Speaker B: Given official approval or something. [00:25:30] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:25:31] Speaker A: The official blessing. [00:25:32] Speaker C: Now, Scott, not to freak you out, but did you open the door of the cabinet behind you? [00:25:37] Speaker B: I did. [00:25:37] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:38] Speaker C: All right. [00:25:39] Speaker B: I made it. [00:25:39] Speaker C: I mean, it's mysteriously open. [00:25:40] Speaker B: I made a wonderful scene behind you for the camera. [00:25:43] Speaker C: Oh, you did? [00:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:44] Speaker A: I gotta say, I gotta. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pick a bone now. [00:25:49] Speaker C: Okay, he's picking. [00:25:50] Speaker B: Pick away. Pick away. Danber. [00:25:53] Speaker A: I. I was trying really hard, actually. Funny enough, I thought the movie was going to be. Well, I'll talk about that when we get there. But anyway, I just realized you brought up exorcisms in here and demon juju and all those things you don't like me pulling up, but see how easy it is to just kind of step into it? [00:26:13] Speaker B: Well, Danny, let me just say this. We're talking about the Vatican. The Vatican has some dark, secret history. We're all. We're all aware of that. But it's not Easter, not Christmas. There's a difference. And Danny, Danny, don't get me wrong. I struggled because I was like, hey, you know, I'm busting Danny's balls about taking something, you know, Good. And, yeah, I struggle with it, but, you know, the Catholics are a little weird. We love our. We love our Catholic community, viewers and listeners. We love them. But it's a little creepy. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Everything. [00:26:48] Speaker B: I mean, it's just. I think it's. I want to take that back. I don't think it's creepy. I think it's unknown. And I think the secrecy of the unknown creates a right. You know? [00:26:59] Speaker C: Right. If you make it mysterious, people come up with conspiracies. [00:27:03] Speaker B: Right. I mean, the whole. The whole Vatican seems creepy, but it's mysterious. And I want. I think we should get in their basement, because I would love to see what they have in their basement. [00:27:14] Speaker C: I hear it's pretty big. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I would imagine. [00:27:17] Speaker C: And maybe that's where that little girl got lost. [00:27:19] Speaker A: It was in the basement, the one I just mentioned. Yes, Potentially. [00:27:22] Speaker B: I wasn't listening to that. But do you think the chronovisor is down there in the basement? [00:27:28] Speaker A: I think the chronovisor is down there. I think the Ark of the Covenant's down. [00:27:31] Speaker C: The ark, yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker B: You know what I think is down there? [00:27:34] Speaker A: What? [00:27:35] Speaker B: The Spear of Destiny. You know what that is? [00:27:38] Speaker C: Educate us. [00:27:39] Speaker B: That's. It's also known as the Holy Lance, and it's a weapon said to have pierced the side of Jesus Christ during the crucifixion and carried through time by emperors, conquerors, and mad men alike. [00:27:50] Speaker A: Do you remember name of the warrior. [00:27:54] Speaker B: That. That stuck him? Yeah, I don't, but I. You know what I do remember? I do remember that when he stuck him, according to the Bible, the blood from his side got into his face and. And it got into his eyes and. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Or it healed his eyes. [00:28:12] Speaker B: It healed his eyes? Yeah, he had a. He had an eye problem. And when he allegedly stuck Christ in the side, the blood got onto his face and he. His vision became perfect. And then he. He was actually eventually killed because he spread the word of the gospel and said, I'm a believer now. And he felt horrible. He's like, yeah, man. He was the real thing. I shouldn't have done that. Right. And what was his name? [00:28:38] Speaker A: It wasn't Barabbas, was it? [00:28:40] Speaker B: No. [00:28:41] Speaker A: I heard they cut his eyes out first. [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah, they did. Yeah. Because they said he wouldn't. Yeah, they said, tell us you don't believe. And he said, no, I believe. And so they cut his eyes out. [00:28:51] Speaker C: Good for him. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:53] Speaker A: And then. And there was some sort of. And then, if I understand right, there was this confrontation that happened in some place where there were statues. And, you know, he was confronted again with this conversion and. And didn't refuse to. And I think I heard that the statue was like an earthquake or something long enough over. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Longinus. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah. And then he got his head cut off. [00:29:14] Speaker B: Longinus. That was his name. Longinus. Longinus. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Long Longinus. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:20] Speaker A: Call Guinness. [00:29:21] Speaker C: Well, speaking of Jesus, the. The Shroud of Turin has been in the news lately. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah. They did, like, a 3D rendering, didn't they? They. [00:29:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I guess I don't have dates, but the first test that they did, they figured that it was made in, like, the 1600s or something like that. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Right. [00:29:42] Speaker C: But they were taking samples from the edge, and the shroud had been fixed several times right through the years, and so they've taken samples from the. The center, and it's. And it's like 50, 80 is what they're coming up with. [00:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't doubt the shroud of terrain. I think that that's actually. I. I believe that. [00:30:04] Speaker C: Yeah. So pretty amazing. [00:30:07] Speaker B: But they did. They also did. They took the. Recently, with the technology that we have Today, they did 3D imaging of the face and came up. This would have been a good time for you to come up with a picture of Jesus. [00:30:20] Speaker C: Oh, I already did. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Oh, it's up. [00:30:22] Speaker C: It's up right now. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Oh, it's up. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Look at that. [00:30:25] Speaker C: Future me. [00:30:26] Speaker B: I see. Future tab. Put it up. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So they did a 3D rendering of the Shroud of Turin, and it's actually pretty cool. And then didn't. They found blood. What was. It wasn't on the shroud. I should have probably looked that up. [00:30:40] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm sorry. I just threw that in. It wasn't part of the. It just came up. [00:30:44] Speaker B: And so legend has it that in regards to the Spear of Destiny, that at some point, Hitler saw the Spear of Destiny while a struggling artist in Vienna was in possession of it and it was seized in 1938. One of his first acts was to confiscate the spear. He believed. He believed. Hitler believed that it would grant him unstoppable power. And then the Allies recovered the spear after World War II, where it allegedly. The spear. The alleged spear rests in Vienna. So they have it. They believe it is the Spear of Destiny, which I think. Which I think is in the basement of the Vatican. [00:31:23] Speaker C: Why keep that a secret? You know, I mean, really, why. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Why keep a lot of things secret? [00:31:29] Speaker C: I know. I mean, if you want people to have faith, bring them out so people can see them. You know, and I mean, I know faith is. It's faith, but I mean. [00:31:38] Speaker B: I mean, I think I concrete. I think the spear had been, like, on tour. Oh. But then eventually Hitler stole it and then they. [00:31:47] Speaker C: It's been lost in war. [00:31:49] Speaker B: No, they. They have a back, but they hid it in a safe place. [00:31:52] Speaker C: Right. [00:31:52] Speaker B: Nobody tries to steal it, I would imagine. Well, what's that? [00:31:56] Speaker A: You know, one thing we haven't touched on. [00:31:58] Speaker C: What's that? [00:31:59] Speaker A: Extraterrestrials. [00:32:00] Speaker B: Oh, I don't think that that fits in. Oh, you know, what. What the. Are you talking about? Satan or Lucifer? [00:32:09] Speaker A: So supposedly there's the rumors. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Lucifer telescope? Is that what you're talking about? [00:32:14] Speaker A: No, no, there's. There's rumors that the archives also hold the skulls. Have reported of a reported UFO crash from 1933 in Italy. And that pope, plus. Is that how you say his name? Plus plus Pius. Sorry. The 12th personally briefed President Roosevelt about it. UFO researchers like Steve Bassett argue the Church has been hiding proof of extraterrestrial contact for decades. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:32:45] Speaker C: And we don't hear about that because it goes against their belief or the structure. [00:32:52] Speaker A: There are some that challenge the belief of the existence of. Well, I mean, obviously. [00:32:58] Speaker C: Right. [00:32:59] Speaker A: There's. There's people that don't believe in religion or Jesus and all, any of that. And so. And I think there might be a tie in, too. I often hear the sec. I shouldn't say everyone, but there's a secular argument for aliens are the creation, you know, or the simulation piece. [00:33:15] Speaker C: Right. Yeah. That they're the creator of the DNA, of human DNA. That we were all slaves at one point, right, Mining gold or whatever they needed us to do. Build pyramids. [00:33:27] Speaker A: It was us mining Bitcoin. [00:33:29] Speaker C: Bitcoin, yeah, that was it. So what, Scott, what is Lucifer? Well, the Lucifer acronym. Lucifer. [00:33:38] Speaker B: The acronym. What does it mean? Yeah, Large Binocular Telescope. Large Binocular Telescope. Near Spectroscope Utility. Blah, blah, blah. It was nicknamed. It was nicknamed Lucifer, but funded by the Vatican. [00:33:55] Speaker C: And so the Vatican would put a spin on it. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe the Vatican. It doesn't say here, but I believe the Vatican put money into this so that they could determine whether or not there was extraterrestrial life. Because they wanted to convert. They wanted to have the ability to convert extraterrestrial life first. So they invested in this Lucifer Telescope. But then they realized that Lucifer wasn't the best sounding name for a telescope. [00:34:23] Speaker C: Right. [00:34:24] Speaker B: So it was eventually, right off the. [00:34:25] Speaker C: Bat, call them the devil. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:26] Speaker C: You know, if they do find an. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Alien so they eventually renamed it covering their bases. They eventually renamed it Lucy. L U C I Lucy instead of Lucifer. [00:34:35] Speaker C: But that makes sense. [00:34:36] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Lucy Fur. Her last name is Fur. [00:34:40] Speaker B: So the, the Catholics want to be the first person to convert the aliens, so they invested a bunch of money in this thing so they can. [00:34:48] Speaker C: Now there's some paintings. I'm just going off of memorying. There's some paintings that are, I think even in the Vatican that have pictures of that what look like UFOs in the sky. And I don't know what the artist. The artist is or whatever, but I remember seeing some documentaries where they had. And they look like. I mean, when you, you don't. It's not obvious, but when they zoom in on it, you're like, oh, that's a ufo. [00:35:16] Speaker B: I think there's a lot of symbolism within the Catholic religion that, that you can see on the, on the ancient artifacts that they wear, the crosses that they wear, and some of the, some of the things within that. [00:35:30] Speaker C: I mean, it's so out of place. You're like, that doesn't. Why would the artist render in a UFO into their, their depiction of a religious image and then they throw in a ufo? [00:35:43] Speaker B: I think it's funny too when you, you know, obviously the, the Pope recently passed away. The Pope. The Pope recently passed away. They had the, the funeral for the Pope, which was. From what I saw, some of the stuff was pretty creepy. But, you know, I, I find it hard to believe some of the stuff that you see because I, I remember seeing a video of an upside down cross at, like, at like, what do you call those things that open up? You know what when you go through them? [00:36:10] Speaker C: Like, like a, like a revolving door. [00:36:12] Speaker B: Not a revolving door, but just a, like a saloon type door. [00:36:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Turn style. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Oh, with, with an upside down cross on it. [00:36:19] Speaker C: Ones that kick you in the butt when you. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then, and then. Did anyone see when they were carrying it and they had like a bunch of guys with the long, tall. They almost look like clan uniforms, but they were black and had the, the hooded. They had hoods over their face. They went really high. [00:36:36] Speaker C: No, see, I looked into that not as a satanic, that they, that had nothing to do. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:42] Speaker C: It had nothing to do with them. [00:36:43] Speaker B: That's why I. [00:36:44] Speaker C: So we'll debunk that that was a satanic ritual. Okay, Perfect. And they tried to say that was the Vatican. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:51] Speaker C: It wasn't perfect. [00:36:52] Speaker B: I saw. [00:36:52] Speaker A: Wow, Good. [00:36:53] Speaker B: That makes me feel better. [00:36:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:55] Speaker B: You guys ready to move on? [00:36:56] Speaker C: Yes. [00:36:56] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Let's go. Let's do it. [00:36:58] Speaker C: Let's ride. [00:37:02] Speaker A: In a quiet town in a small studio It's Northwest Curiosity Society's movie review. [00:37:27] Speaker B: The Pope is dead. The throne is vacant. [00:37:41] Speaker D: What happened? [00:37:42] Speaker B: They say a heart attack. You know how rumor spreads. And one and a quarter billion souls watching. [00:37:49] Speaker A: Well thought. [00:37:50] Speaker C: No, Lawrence. [00:37:51] Speaker D: It seems the responsibility for the conclave falls upon you. The supervision of this election is a duty I never thought I'd have to perform. They are sequestered and they must be shielded from all newness that may influence their judgment. You understand? [00:38:11] Speaker C: No sane man would want the papacy. The men who are dangerous. [00:38:19] Speaker B: Are the. [00:38:19] Speaker A: Ones who do want it. That sounds ominous. I wonder if I could have a word in private. [00:38:29] Speaker B: You look anxious. Everything under control? [00:38:33] Speaker D: How has this been kept a secret for so long? [00:38:36] Speaker C: We'll never find a candidate who doesn't. [00:38:38] Speaker D: Have any kind of black mark against them. Although we sisters are supposed to to be invisible. God has nevertheless given us eyes and ears. [00:38:51] Speaker A: You should be careful, Thomas. [00:38:57] Speaker D: This is a conclave, Aldo. It's not a war. [00:38:59] Speaker B: It is a war, and you have to commit to a side. [00:39:14] Speaker D: There is one sin which I have come to fear above all others. Certainty. If there was only certainty and no doubt, there would be no mystery, and therefore no need for faith. [00:39:46] Speaker B: So, conclave, Danny, what'd you think? I'm not going first. Oh, boy. [00:39:52] Speaker A: I gotta go first. So let me start out and say I fell asleep. Well, I did, but it took me three days to watch. [00:40:05] Speaker C: Wow, you were dedicated. [00:40:06] Speaker A: Well, I fell asleep and then I was like, okay, so. But here's why I. When I first saw this preview in the. In, you know, when it was coming out in the theaters, I really wanted to go see it, but I really thought that there was going to be some of that, you know, scary juju kind of, right? Demons, you know, the Vinci Code, scary stuff. The whole time I'm watching the movie, I'm like, okay, where's the demon? Something's going to jump out. Here it comes. But I didn't realize that it wasn't that type of movie. [00:40:36] Speaker B: Do you think I would have. Do you think I would have recommended my movie review to be a scary movie? [00:40:42] Speaker A: I was surprised, actually. And I really thought that it was going to be. I. Maybe I just, you know, the high hopes going into it. That said, it is that we're talking about the way that they portrayed, you know, what a conclave might look like and how that might feel and all that stuff. It's no surprise if that is an accurate depiction. It's no surprise. It's got all this insides and these clicks and these ways that people manipulate each other. [00:41:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker B: I mean, it's human nature. It's human nature. Irregardless of how religious you are, there's still liars that are trying to get to the top. [00:41:19] Speaker A: Right? [00:41:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:20] Speaker A: I don't know what. I probably should have looked this up, but I'd be curious to know what those that have participated in an actual conclave would say about it and its depiction of. I'm sure it would be a. Oh, no, it's not like that. We're all, you know, whatever. [00:41:34] Speaker B: But, yeah, I think I. I think I read that the overall depiction of the conclave process from the depiction in the movie, from the death of the Pope to the ceiling of the Pope's room. You know, I think what makes it kind of unique for us in watching the Conclave is that we recently lost a Pope. And they showed on the news in these special segments what happens. I remember seeing the ceiling of the Pope's room almost exactly the way they did it in the movie, where they took the wax and they sealed the room and the white and black smoke. What happens behind those closed doors, I'm not sure that you're really going to know. But what has been said about the movie and the actual process, the conclave process, is pretty accurate. You know, I mean, all of the. All of the sideline stuff, I'm not sure. [00:42:30] Speaker C: Well, yeah, the. The opening scenes, it just seemed like it was systematic, the way that they prepared the body. [00:42:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:42:39] Speaker C: I mean, they pulled the ring off his finger. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Lots of rituals. Yeah. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Yeah. It was very ritualistic. [00:42:44] Speaker C: It's like, get it off and get him out. You know, it wasn't. It was very sanitary. Yeah. [00:42:51] Speaker A: You know, I think I heard somebody say, anybody got time for that? [00:42:53] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like, get him out of here. Get. Bag him up. It's like he died on his body bag. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:42:59] Speaker C: Zipped him up. You know, get him out of here. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:01] Speaker C: It was very weird. [00:43:03] Speaker A: I think. I think, though, I mean, it was intriguing, and it was very, very slow for me. [00:43:09] Speaker C: Oh, I did. [00:43:09] Speaker A: And I did fall asleep, too, Danny. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Tab and I were behind on our homework, so Tab came out a little bit early before the podcast, and we're like, oh, snap. We gotta watch that movie. So we sat on the couch two hours. We both almost pulled a tab 10 minutes into it. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker B: But, you know, I will say that I fell asleep. It was very slow, but it Totally seemed. And I knew that we had very limited time. We had to get the studio set up for the podcast. I was like, this is a movie that I think I would enjoy if I. If I wasn't rushed to watch it, if I knew that it wasn't homework, if I was, you know, two hours before bed and I could sit down and watch, I think I would really enjoy it. I liked how it was filmed, the cinematography. The cinematography of it. But it, you know, it wasn't. It seemed less religious and more political totally to me. But I guess that's, you know, that's. You look at the Catholic Church and the Vatican and you think religion, but everything is tied to politics. [00:44:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Nothing magical. You just were looking at the cogs and the gears. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. [00:44:19] Speaker C: How it works. Yeah. [00:44:22] Speaker A: There's just enough drama to keep you hooked. [00:44:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:25] Speaker A: And, you know, it's. But still, for me, it was just slow. And then I had to check myself on a couple other thoughts. I had to check myself one to make sure I got the right version. And then I didn't pull a tab and get it in French. There was so many. [00:44:40] Speaker C: Right. Right at the beginning, I thought it was the Zolid. [00:44:44] Speaker B: A lot of Latin. [00:44:45] Speaker A: So it's great. But I just, you know, trying to read and keep up with it, and especially when they get, like, animated. The one guy was just speaking pretty much all Italian. That's fine. I'm not picking on that. But it was. It was hard to read and then watch the scene. But I gotta say one thing, though, that threw me off. And I love, love, love John Lithgow. Buddy didn't seem well placed in that movie. [00:45:11] Speaker C: No. [00:45:11] Speaker B: In my opinion, it's difficult to find him as a bad guy. [00:45:15] Speaker A: Right. Right. [00:45:15] Speaker B: And. And he was, for the most part, a bad guy. And you expect him to, you know. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:20] Speaker B: Trip over something or, you know. Yeah. [00:45:25] Speaker C: I think Mel Gibson did it best when he picked the cast for Passion of the Christ to keep it all new, fresh. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:34] Speaker C: Faces that you couldn't tie. The. The depiction of Jesus, you know, he just picked a. Somebody that wasn't famous or anything like that. And it kept you on course of that. This is something that happened, you know, And. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I agree. I thought the same thing, Danny. I was like, John Lithgow. I was like. It's almost like having Chevy Chase play that role. Right. [00:45:57] Speaker A: I was waiting for, like, Harry to show up from here. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Like, just. I don't know. It just. That's not. I love the guy in every movie. I've seen him in, but it just didn't. He just didn't seem well placed. [00:46:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess. [00:46:10] Speaker A: But. Yeah, but you know, overall character, I love the drama. I mean, everybody, of course did well, you know, you didn't feel like it was. You didn't feel like it was like a crappy movie. They had one setting. No, they did a great job going through all the rituals and all the preparation. And then some might say it was a little confusing. Maybe not confusing, but the end was a little abrupt. It just kind of got to it and there you go. [00:46:37] Speaker C: But Danny, what happened at the end? [00:46:41] Speaker A: They elected a pope and then it ended. [00:46:43] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Okay. You'll have to watch for yourself to learn. But the process was followed. A pope was elected by the two thirds majority. [00:46:55] Speaker C: Yeah. They've only got one spot left, I guess, in the Vatican. They don't have another one. [00:47:01] Speaker B: That's a whole other episode right there. [00:47:03] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [00:47:04] Speaker B: That's a whole nother episode. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Are you talking about the end of the. The news? [00:47:10] Speaker C: Yeah, it's an American, I guess. [00:47:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:12] Speaker C: And America. And there's only one pictorial spot left for a picture of like the last Pope. So they're either gonna have to. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Okay, yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker C: Make a east wing or a new wing or somewhere where they're going to have to keep going or start painting over old. [00:47:29] Speaker A: I don't. Maybe that's where the Antichrist shows up. [00:47:34] Speaker C: It'll be a computer chip because it'll probably be. AI. [00:47:38] Speaker A: Yeah, AI, finish this wall. I. You know, if we're going to say watch the movie, I think it's worthwhile. But it is slow. It is slow. [00:47:47] Speaker B: It is. [00:47:48] Speaker A: It's a drama. [00:47:49] Speaker C: It's not scary at all. [00:47:50] Speaker B: And it's slow in parts, I believe, where it didn't need to be slow in part, where they would just have like these cinematic moments that sort of went on for a little too long. I did really enjoy the cinematic moment of the. All of the. What were they called? [00:48:07] Speaker A: The cardinals. [00:48:08] Speaker B: Cardinals. Where they had this one group of cardinals that were just smoking cigarettes like one after another. [00:48:13] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:48:14] Speaker A: That sounds totally like they were in a casino. [00:48:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:17] Speaker C: Right. Just chain smoking. And then, and then the apartments that they, that they lived in, they all had key locks, you know, they were card locks. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:27] Speaker C: So they couldn't trust each other. [00:48:28] Speaker B: Right. Why would you need those in the Vatican? [00:48:30] Speaker A: Right, yeah. And I didn't realize at the end too, and I understand sequestering, but they have the roll down thing on the outside of the windows. I think when the very End scene. When the. You know, you notice the, like, something comes up. It's almost like there was a. Something on the outside, like a steel curtain or something that was shut. They were truly sequestered, but in. Locked in, you know? And anyway, it. Yeah, you have to have that level of security, but then again, I suppose you want no outside influence, but that. [00:48:58] Speaker C: You got to worry about that in. [00:49:01] Speaker A: And of itself goes back to what we said earlier, is that they influence very much on a broad scale. A lot of people, a lot of things. Yeah, outwardly. But inward, it's a. It's a, you know, steel trap. You can't get in. Fortress, rather. [00:49:15] Speaker B: All right, you guys ready to move on? [00:49:17] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:49:17] Speaker B: Did you guys do your homework? Did you read the. You guys even read the. [00:49:21] Speaker C: I told you I did. I told you I didn't do this. Did you. [00:49:24] Speaker A: I got one. Well, you're not gonna. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Did you. Did you read the episode outline? It's just what I'm saying. [00:49:28] Speaker C: I. I did. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:30] Speaker B: So, you know, we have a new segment. We do the paranormal draft. I'm gonna give you guys the opportunity to develop your own ultimate ghost hunting team. [00:49:39] Speaker C: I'm already made. [00:49:40] Speaker B: Made. [00:49:41] Speaker C: We have it already made. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Fully. Yeah, I agree. [00:49:44] Speaker C: We just need a Scooby Doo. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Named from. Entirely from pop culture. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Are we gonna do this and, like, go around? [00:49:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. So you, Danny, would say who, like, at me? Three people who you would choose. And it doesn't necessarily have to be from pulp pop culture. I mean, you can say, hey, I think Scott would really be good on my team because he's so good at so many things. You know, like, you can throw me in on there. But it doesn't necessarily only have to be pop culture. So if you had three. Three people that you could bring with you for your ghost hunting team. Like the A team. Gert. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Yep. [00:50:20] Speaker B: For your Gert team. Ghost response team. [00:50:22] Speaker A: Response team. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Let's make it interesting. What if we go one at a time? One, and then rotate? [00:50:30] Speaker B: Okay, that's fine, because I have. Because I. I read the outline. I created the outline, but I have no idea who I want on my team. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:50:37] Speaker C: Okay, so what you're saying is you didn't do your own homework. [00:50:40] Speaker B: No, I did. That's not. I'm not saying that. [00:50:42] Speaker C: Okay. [00:50:42] Speaker B: I'm just saying that if I had a little bit more time to think about it. [00:50:46] Speaker C: Yeah. We had, what, three days when we got this? [00:50:49] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, Danny, you go first. [00:50:51] Speaker A: Okay. Let me just do one. Or you want Me to give you my three. [00:50:54] Speaker B: I gotta go first. [00:50:55] Speaker A: I gotta go first. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Just give us your three, Danny. [00:50:58] Speaker A: All right. [00:50:59] Speaker C: No, just do one. That's fine. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Just do one, then we'll. Okay, we'll figure it out from there. [00:51:03] Speaker A: I'm gonna start off here. So you guys can't take them. Number one draft pick in the Paranormal draft. 20, 25 is. [00:51:12] Speaker B: Wait for it, Shaggy. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Egon Spengler. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Spangler. Okay. Okay. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Yes, sir. Egon Spengler, my number one overall pick. [00:51:22] Speaker B: All right. [00:51:22] Speaker A: It's a genius. Why would you not go with Egon? [00:51:26] Speaker B: Right. Who are your other two? [00:51:28] Speaker A: My other two? [00:51:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:29] Speaker A: I'll save the. I'll save the big one for last, but it's hard. Okay, this one I'm gonna count as one because it's a couple. It's a pair. Ed and Lorraine Warren. If I. If I could be so bold and just say they count as one, you. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Know, do you really think that they're not charlatans? [00:51:49] Speaker A: I. You know, I don't know. [00:51:51] Speaker B: I mean, I know they were. I'm thankful to them for laying the groundwork for normalizing this type of stuff a little bit more. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:52:01] Speaker B: You know, and, you know, give credit to where credit's due with Zach Baggins as well. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:06] Speaker B: For sort of laying that ground. [00:52:07] Speaker A: I left him for you to. [00:52:08] Speaker B: But the more. The more I look and research both Ed and Lorraine Warren, it just seems to me like they were charlatans. [00:52:15] Speaker A: What better way to find out? [00:52:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I think. I think. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Okay, so that's your three, because that's. Well, that's. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Give me credit for one on that one. [00:52:22] Speaker B: No, no, because that's two people. [00:52:25] Speaker A: Well, can we bump it up to five? Because I got two more now. [00:52:27] Speaker B: You got to choose one. Ed or Lorraine. [00:52:30] Speaker A: Well, I wouldn't pick either one of them then. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:34] Speaker A: Okay, fine. Okay, my next one. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Well, wait, hold on. You can't say your next one. It's three. You've already chosen three. You have to get rid of Ed or you're getting rid of both of them. Yeah, okay. [00:52:46] Speaker A: I thought you'd let me sneak that one in there. [00:52:47] Speaker B: No, no, I'm quick, Danny. My mind works like a steel. What do you call this? [00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah, bunch of columns. Lynn Shea. Every character Lynn Shea has played. [00:53:04] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:53:05] Speaker A: She's. They call them scream queens. [00:53:08] Speaker B: Okay? [00:53:09] Speaker A: She's played in the Insidious series. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Okay? [00:53:13] Speaker A: She's. She's one of the main characters in. In that movie series. But Lynn Shea, she's this. I don't know how Old. She is. I don't want to insult her, but she's. She's up there and she's still. She plays a very good creepy. What do you call those natural. What do you call that when you can path empaths or something like that? Yeah. And then my last one, John Constantine. That's my last. [00:53:38] Speaker B: I don't know who that is either. [00:53:39] Speaker A: You don't know John Constantine? [00:53:41] Speaker B: No. Refresh my memory. [00:53:42] Speaker A: The demon. [00:53:43] Speaker B: Oh, he was the one from Greece. The guy from Greece. [00:53:46] Speaker A: From Greece. He's actually American, I think. [00:53:47] Speaker C: No, demon hunter. [00:53:50] Speaker B: The show Grease Hunter. [00:53:52] Speaker A: No, John Constantine. Keanu Reeves did a movie on it years ago. He had the tattoos on his hands and he did this thing and then it's. It's. He's actually a comic book character. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:54:06] Speaker A: But he's a demon hunter. Yeah. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:08] Speaker A: That would be my last one. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:10] Speaker A: All right, how about you guys? [00:54:11] Speaker B: I will go over mine very quickly because I just popped into my head and I don't want to forget. First of all, my first two, and I don't even know their names, but, Danny, I'm looking for your help here. They were in a TV show and they're brothers and they fight demons. I'm. [00:54:28] Speaker A: I'm blanking on the. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Okay, this is going to be an edit. [00:54:30] Speaker A: It's like one word. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Come on. [00:54:31] Speaker A: Right on the tip of my tongue. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I know, Me too. [00:54:33] Speaker C: Okay, well, you think about that. I've got my three. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Okay. And then my. My third one is Mr. Rogers, because I just feel like he'll keep everything even keel and happy. [00:54:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:42] Speaker B: And he can give us, like, good words of advice and wisdom and he. [00:54:45] Speaker C: Can tie your shoes. [00:54:46] Speaker B: What is it, Danny? Come on. The brothers. [00:54:49] Speaker C: Anyway, my three. Harold Hammond. [00:54:52] Speaker B: Harold Ramis. [00:54:53] Speaker C: Ramis. [00:54:53] Speaker B: Harold Ramos. [00:54:54] Speaker C: Bill Murray. [00:54:55] Speaker B: Bill Murray. Okay. [00:54:56] Speaker C: And Dan Aykroyd. [00:54:58] Speaker B: Oh, just going straight up for the. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Are you taking their real. [00:55:02] Speaker C: I want one of the packs. I want the. I want. I want. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait. Which ones? Which ones did you pick again? It's Supernatural, by the way. [00:55:08] Speaker B: Supernatural, okay, the brothers from Supernatural, because they had weapons for everybody and everything. What were their names? Not the actors, but the show names. [00:55:22] Speaker C: What show? [00:55:23] Speaker B: Was it Supernatural? I never watched it, but Trisha did, so I would catch, you know, episodes every now and then. It. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Actually, I don't remember. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Super cheesy. [00:55:33] Speaker C: Oh, well, yeah. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Wait, which. Which did you pick? Tab. Did you say Harold Ramis as well? [00:55:38] Speaker C: Yes. [00:55:39] Speaker A: You can't take Carol Ramos. That's Egon Spangler. [00:55:41] Speaker C: Oh, well, why can't I? Okay. [00:55:45] Speaker A: Fine. [00:55:46] Speaker C: We'll throw Scooby Doo in there. [00:55:47] Speaker B: That's why he went first. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I should have said Harold Ramos slash Egon Spangler. [00:55:55] Speaker B: You could take the girl Ghostbusters with you. That nobody knows their name because it was such a horrible movie. [00:56:00] Speaker A: So you guys ready to move on? [00:56:02] Speaker C: Okay. [00:56:04] Speaker B: We. We don't. [00:56:05] Speaker C: Rick Moranis. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Rick Moranis. We don't. We don't move on. Danny, this is the end of the episode. We're. We're going out. [00:56:11] Speaker A: I know. [00:56:12] Speaker B: We're going out. Wonderful. Wonderful. [00:56:15] Speaker A: I feel. Who won, though. [00:56:16] Speaker B: Was it a game? No, it wasn't a game. It was just. I think there's no prize. [00:56:20] Speaker C: Danny one. Because he was. He was more prepared. [00:56:23] Speaker B: Was he? Whatever. Anyway, awesome episode, everybody. [00:56:27] Speaker C: This is a new album. [00:56:28] Speaker B: And then there was three twelve candles. [00:56:33] Speaker E: Flicker shadows kneel beneath the dome the lights conceal red robe Silence Eyes turn low but something lingers down below they buried a king in robes of night but the bells don't toll Just out of fright Truth walks hearts with saints once tried Guarded by ghosts and the breath of God Psalms are sung in a whispered code A throne no cold a faith for its tone Eyes of marble lips of stone Watch the secrets carved in bone Mortar's Papa Viva Vox Truth is changed beneath the cross keys of Peter locked in flame no one dares to speak his name Cloaked in gold the truth bleeds black the past won't sleep it's coming back Catacombs echo, prophecy spark and still we go into the dark gaming rooms of light but the bells don't toll just out of fright Truth loves homes that saints once drop Guarded by ghosts and the breath of God the God Northwest Curiosity Society. [00:58:11] Speaker B: But the bells don't toll just how they ride 99. Bye, 99, everybody. What? [00:58:26] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:58:27] Speaker B: Don't say that. [00:58:27] Speaker A: I don't know What. [00:58:28] Speaker B: That scares me. What? Bye. Nighty night.